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2025年6月24日生菜测略
行情回顾：昨晚夜间美伊停火，加密市场走了深V爆拉，大饼重新回到震荡区间，二饼则到达均线附近压制处。
最近开单5连胜，内部课堂讲述了进场逻辑和实盘回测入场信号胜率的课程，包括移动止损和盈亏比止盈的细节点，与行情完美匹配，想跟着学习的点击主页进入叮叮裙！
大饼深V反转，从99500直接拉升到最高106000，涨幅超6%。目前进入震荡调整区间，还没发生背离，后续还会有一段上冲，预计会在106500附近受阻下行，投资者们可以做好预案，当前大行情依旧偏空，消息面拉升迅猛但是不具备持续力，注意轻仓带止损。
第二压力：107500
第一压力：106500
第一支撑：102600
第二支撑：99600
二饼从2180直冲2430附近，正好到达下跌颈线压力位置，接下来行情会创造顶部形态或者背离，昨天小课有给会员推演过，行情会向上测试颈线位置的压力后走熊，左侧交易者可以尝试在2480附近空，右侧需等待形态走出再入场，短暂消息面不会改变大格局。
第二压力：2480
第一压力：2440
第一支撑：2294
第二支撑：2208
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Lettuce Strategy for June 20, 2025
Review: Bitcoin and Ethereum have been sideways for 3 days, requiring new strength to guide the trend change. Bitcoin and Ethereum have closed below the moving average for 3 consecutive days on the daily chart, and are being pressured by the moving average on the 4-hour chart; the altcoin has shown 6 consecutive doji candles near the moving average on the weekly and daily charts, indicating a very weak trend, and a bearish outlook is expected.
Bitcoin is oscillating in the range of 103500-105500, with no clear direction in the smaller time frames; the 4-hour moving average is in a bearish arrangement, indicating a bearish trend. A bullish breakout above 105500 can be chased, while a bearish breakdown below 103500 can also be pursued.
The recent trend of the altcoin is influenced by Bitcoin, and a trend change is imminent; if the price falls below 2470, a short can be pursued, and if it breaks above 2540, a long can be chased. The altcoin's trend is relatively weak, and attention should be paid to whether Bitcoin will make a significant move first.

Lettuce Survey on June 19, 2025
Market Review: The prices of Bitcoin and Ethereum fluctuated around (Bitcoin 103500-105300, Ethereum 2460-2540) under the influence of the Federal Reserve's interest rate announcement, and a trend change period is approaching. Currently, the 4-hour level is still under pressure from the moving averages, with the market struggling near the support line. A conservative approach requires waiting for the market to show direction, while an aggressive approach can trade around the upper and lower bands of the 30-minute Bollinger Bands.
Yesterday's lesson covered the top-bottom structure and entry points, including specific details on predictions and stop-loss/take-profit strategies, perfectly matching the market conditions. Those who want to learn alongside are welcome to privately message us on the homepage to join the internal class.
Bitcoin has been in a sideways trend for a day and a half, continuously forming a bottom pattern but lacking upward momentum. From the candlestick structure, it is expected to form an overbought condition near 105500, while being suppressed by the 4-hour moving average, starting a downward trend. Those holding long positions should pay attention to potential market reversals. It is expected that the market will continue to fluctuate slightly around 103500-105800 during the day.
Second Resistance: 107500
First Resistance: 106000
First Support: 104100
Second Support: 103500
Ethereum's trend is consistent with Bitcoin's, currently still in the 2460-2540 fluctuation range, with unclear direction. It should be noted that the weekly level of Ethereum has already shown the sixth doji star; high position means bullish strength is weakening, and the MACD volume histogram has shifted from upward divergence to downward contraction, which could lead to a crash at any time. The 4-hour chart is hovering near the support level with no upward momentum, and the pressure from the moving averages is also evident. Everyone should manage their positions well.
Second Resistance: 2569
First Resistance: 2542
First Support: 2506
Second Support: 2460
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Lettuce Test Strategy June 18, 2025
Market Review: Bitcoin and Ethereum started to decline without volume from the afternoon yesterday. The bulls completely refrained from buying, leading to a gradual decline followed by a crash, dropping from (Bitcoin 107500 to 103300, Ethereum 2659 down to around 2450) without any pause. The overall trend is extremely poor, and we are currently in a rebound phase, with the market showing some stabilization.
Yesterday's lesson discussed how a gradual decline can accelerate into a crash, including specific details on predictions and bottom judgments, perfectly matching the market. Those who want to learn along are welcome to join my internal class.
Bitcoin has adjusted upwards overnight and has reached the resistance level. The 30-minute rise has changed from a straight line pull to a small bullish candle, indicating weakening momentum. It is expected to form resistance in the range of 105300-105800, and short positions can be taken in this range for short-term trades. It is expected that the market will fluctuate slightly around 104100-105800 during the day.
Second Resistance: 107500
First Resistance: 106000
First Support: 104100
Second Support: 103500
Ethereum has stopped falling around 2450, forming a 5-minute W bottom pattern and is currently back in the fluctuation range. This rebound has corrected the accelerated decline from yesterday. At 2 AM tomorrow, the Federal Reserve will announce its interest rate decision, which will increase traders' bets on the direction of the cryptocurrency market, leading to intensified volatility. Everyone should manage their positions carefully.
Second Resistance: 2604
First Resistance: 2576
First Support: 2506
Second Support: 2460
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Lettuce Strategy on June 17, 2025
Market Review: The big cake surged sharply upwards early yesterday morning, and the weekend sideways structure turned into an upward structure. The big cake once rose by 5% to around 108900, but then lacked momentum and underwent a deep pullback, retesting the 4-hour moving average. It is currently forming a small-level bottom pattern, and in the coming days, it is expected to break through historical highs as the bulls' target.
The big cake's rise yesterday was relatively sluggish. I have already mentioned in the small class how to judge the strength of trend markets (if you haven't seen it, please ask the assistant for the link). Early this morning, it plummeted by 3%. Now, at the 5-minute level, it has stabilized, and the daily MACD has turned from a downtrend to an uptrend. I remain optimistic about further increases. The big cake has established a small support at 106600 in the past two days, and the bulls can use this level to attack.
Second Resistance: 110200
First Resistance: 108600
First Support: 106600
Second Support: 105000
The fluctuations of the second cake are very large, ranging from 2500-2680-2530. Both bulls and bears are very emotional, and the indicators are far inferior to the big cake's standards (the 4-hour big cake found support at the moving average, while the second cake directly broke down). It can be observed that the second cake's second round of rising is also very aggressive, having already recovered 60% of the drop, and it is expected to break through 2680 and surge upwards again.
Second Resistance: 2727
First Resistance: 2680
First Support: 2550
Second Support: 2435

Lettuce Strategy on June 13, 2025
The big cake has fallen for three consecutive days, and the daily level is fluctuating widely in the range of 101200-111950. From a structural perspective, the big cake still needs to complete a second round of new highs upwards to finish this bullish market. Success or failure depends on the same factors; the previous sharp rise in the last 4 hours did not establish a support level, leaving hidden dangers. This round of decline is also very rapid, and it remains to be seen whether the operator will learn from the lessons and proceed steadily, or continue with such volatile ups and downs.
Learning goes to the homepage
Today's operation suggestion: In a fluctuating market, operate on a smaller scale, observe the top-bottom patterns and divergence situations to enter the market; both long and short operations are possible.
Second resistance: 110500
First resistance: 107700
First support: 102800
Second support: 100500
The second cake surged from 2500 to 2879, forming a daily level divergence market. After a false breakout, it returned to the fluctuating range, and the upward structure was completed, officially entering a bearish market. Even if the big cake reaches a historical new high, the second cake cannot surge above 2880 again, indicating the degree of weakness.
Today's operation suggestion: Enter the fluctuating range and trade between 2413-2650, selling high and buying low.
Second resistance: 2800
First resistance: 2666
First support: 2482
Second support: 2390

June 12, 2025 Measurement
Bitcoin is currently showing divergence at the weekly level, and needs to break above 111959.5 at the daily level to form divergence. The current 4-hour level is in the second retracement wave of the divergence segment, expected to complete the market movement in 5 waves. This bull market is expected to end around 115000, after which a long bear market at the weekly level will begin. We are currently at the second peak of this bull market.
In terms of operation, at the 4-hour level, both the moving average at 107770 and the support level at 107000 have strong support, making it a good time to set long positions.
Today's operation suggestion: Buy the dip on Bitcoin before breaking the historical high of 111959.5, to welcome the final round of the upward market.
Second pressure: 111959.5
First pressure: 110138
First support: 107770
Second support: 107000
Ethereum reached a new high last night, currently showing daily divergence, and the 4-hour chart still needs to form a third divergence. It is currently undergoing a 30-minute retracement, expected to end this bull market around 2900.
In terms of operation, watch for the appearance of a bottom pattern at the 30-minute level. The moving average at 2718 and the support level at 2723 have strong support, which makes it a good time to try entering the market.
Today's operation suggestion: Keep a close eye on Bitcoin's breakout of the historical high, buy the dip, as the market will have one last upward round to complete the structure.
Second pressure: 2900
First pressure: 2879
First support: 2723
Second support: 2671
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Lettuce Strategy on June 11, 2025
The big pie is consolidating in the range of 108500-110500, digesting the floating capital caused by the previous rapid rise, while conveniently constructing an upward defense zone, raising the bottom defense area from around 105000 to 108500, solidifying the foundation for further new highs. From the 4-hour level, today should continue to show a sideways fluctuation, waiting for the moving averages to rise and support the price.
Today's trading suggestion: Look for long positions near the 108500 level, waiting for the big pie to continue rising.
Second resistance: 112000
First resistance: 110400
First support: 108500
Second support: 106300
Ether broke through the 2800 high point yesterday, continuing to rise and catch up, currently breaking through the highest point of this round of rise, with a demand for solidification. From the 4-hour level, Ether's upward momentum remains strong, and the main direction ahead is still upward; from the 30-minute level, Ether shows an oversold trend, with a strong demand for correction, oscillating in the range of 2716-2800 to digest the indicator divergence caused by the rise.
Today's trading suggestion: Look for double bottom and other technical patterns, choose to enter long.

20250610 Strategy
The big pie (Bitcoin) is experiencing a violent surge, directly pushing to a new historical high. The bulls are erupting crazily. Currently, it is encountering resistance around 109500, which is a normal pullback. From the momentum structure, the big pie still has the strength to continue rising. Short positions should be cautious when entering, while long positions can choose to continue entering after observing a stop-loss signal at smaller time frames. Those who need to learn are welcome to click the homepage for communication.
The big pie's trend is very strong. It has pulled back to around 109000, supported by the 30-minute EMA30 moving average, showing signs of stabilization. Currently, relying on the moving average, MACD divergence, and bottoming patterns is a relatively good entry signal.
The bottom of the big pie has risen, but the support level has not yet been well established. It needs to oscillate for half a day to build an effective support level. From the Fibonacci chart, 108200 and 106700 are two relatively safe support positions.
Operation Suggestion: Enter long positions with light volume when reaching relevant entry signals
Second Resistance: 112000
First Resistance: 110650
First Support: 108800
Second Support: 108200
Ethereum has been pushed up by the big pie from 2480, and currently has directly reached around 2680, with decent explosive strength. It is also showing signs of stabilization around 2675. Ethereum's 4-hour solid bullish candle has broken through the previous 2668 resistance level. With the subsequent eruption of the big pie, it will surge again. From the Fibonacci perspective, the price at the 0.786 level is 2667.59, and the price at the 0.618 level is 2630.95. When reaching the relevant positions, you can try to open long positions.
Operation Suggestion: Wait for entry signals to open long positions
Second Resistance: 2788
First Resistance: 2716
First Support: 2649
Second Support: 2615

2025-06-09 Strategy
Bitcoin's daily line has undergone its first complex pullback since rising on April 9, receiving strong support at the 30-day line, with a serious tug-of-war between bulls and bears. Observing from the MACD, the downward momentum has not yet been released, and it is estimated that the upcoming market trend will see another round of decline before a second upward movement occurs. A situation resembling a roller coaster, falling from around 105500 to 101800 or even breaking new lows, is still expected, and everyone needs to be on high alert.
From a 30-minute perspective, the divergence caused by the third upward movement has been completed, and conditions are in place for a potential downward plunge at any time. Today, short positions should be the focus, and it is necessary to monitor whether the market shows signs of weakening momentum (after the third segment, watch for long opportunities).
Second resistance level: 108857
First resistance level: 106775
First support level: 103829
Second support level: 101439

Ethereum's daily line pullback has lasted too long, approaching 1 month, raising doubts about whether the main force has the ability to push upward. Currently, Ethereum is also supported by the EMA30, with the MACD showing no weakening of momentum, and a waterfall-like market is expected next. Coupled with the selling pressure of 170,000 coins from the Ethereum Foundation and negative events from international reviews, even if Bitcoin is set to reach a historical high next, Ethereum is still in a downward oscillation trend.
From a 30-minute perspective, this round of rebound in Ethereum has only exceeded 50% of the decline, showing extremely weak movement, and another plunge below 2380 is highly probable, with any upward movement largely relying on Bitcoin. Based on the current trend, Bitcoin's rise can only help Ethereum recover 50% of the decline, which is indeed a difficult situation to manage.
Second resistance level: 2585
First resistance level: 2550
First support level: 2467
Second support level: 2380

Strategy for June 6, 2025
Last night, the market first rose to clear out shorts and then plummeted, leading to a mutual slaughter of both bulls and bears. Bitcoin directly dropped from 105500 to 100500, a decline of 5%! It has currently rebounded to around 102700, and many people's wealth was wiped out overnight. Ethereum plunged directly from around 2630 to 2400, with a drop of up to 10%, and the current price is around 2460, with very weak upward momentum! At 8:30 PM tonight, the non-farm payroll data will be released, and it is another chaotic time.
Today, traders on Wall Street will be relatively cautious about their long and short positions, with most market trends fluctuating between small red and green candles, leaning towards consolidation.
Bitcoin's rebound strength is very strong, relying on the key support level of 101800, it has directly recovered 50% of the decline from the bottom. The bulls remain quite tenacious! The daily level has first broken below the 30-day moving average, and it is a large red candle that has broken through; the moving average system will shift from support to resistance. Tonight’s non-farm data is crucial; if the data is good, it will accelerate the decline, while if the data is poor, there is a chance for a rebound.
Today's operation suggestion: Operate within the range of 101000-103500, with a focus on small-level divergence trends.
Second resistance level: 105900
First resistance level: 103500
First support level: 102000
Second support level: 100000
Ethereum's rebound strength is relatively weak, mainly following Bitcoin's upward rebound. Large capital involvement in Ethereum is not deep, coupled with the recent lack of funds in the Ethereum Foundation and opposition to international scrutiny, it is under significant risk. From a technical perspective, Ethereum has broken through the range support with a large red candle and failed to quickly recover. The trend is very weak, and it is expected to continue facing moving average pressure and form a double bottom to reinforce the 2400 support level. From a higher perspective, the daily level has also first reached the 30-day moving average support, with a temporary stop in decline effect, but the strength of the support needs further observation.
Today's operation suggestion: Focus on range consolidation, short on small-level top divergence, and do not recommend entering long positions.
Second resistance level: 2588
First resistance level: 2529
First support level: 2411
Second support level: 2360
#加密市场回调 #

June 5, 2025 Strategy
The structure of Bitcoin at the 4-hour level is not complete; it needs to drop below 103,000 for incremental funds to go long. Currently, at the 104,500 position, the main focus is on short positions. From a smaller time frame perspective, the 30-minute chart shows a deep V-shaped rise and fall, with both bulls and bears pushing the market very aggressively. In terms of timing, most of the selling happens during Asian hours, while the European and American events lead to buying, resulting in a balanced strength between both sides, causing significant impact during both rallies and sell-offs. After the market drops to 102,000, there will be strong support, and a large influx of long funds will enter, allowing for some profit following the funds.
Trading Advice: Go short above 103,000; after the structure completes, look for small level bottoming funds to enter and go long together.
Second Resistance Level: 106,880
First Resistance Level: 106,000
First Support Level: 103,600
Second Support Level: 102,200
For Ethereum, the bullish funds are very strong, pulling up during the early morning to complete a 4-hour upward move, and it is currently adjusting. After breaking 2,596, it will complete a three-wave downward movement and continue to rebound. Funds have already entered to go long, and the overall atmosphere for going long is quite enthusiastic. The small-level trend is relatively smooth, with strong control from the main force. Pay attention to the impact of Bitcoin's sell-off on Ethereum's resistance to decline. It is recommended to look for small-level divergence positions to enter below 2,596, which will provide a good risk-to-reward ratio.
Trading Advice: Wait for a break below 2,596 to form divergence, and the 4-hour level will begin the third upward segment. It will at least exceed 2,679.
Second Resistance Level: 2,653
First Resistance Level: 2,630
First Support Level: 2,594
Second Support Level: 2,593
Altcoins: OP and ADA have seen an influx of funds and are leading the charge; these two varieties can be prioritized for long positions. Other trends are relatively weak, with low efficiency in rising.

20250521 Strategy
The Bitcoin has strongly broken through the recent new high, and the MACD indicator has not shown any signs of stagnation. The market is very strong, and breaking through the historical new high is expected in the next couple of days.
Operational suggestion: Buy on dips.
Ethereum has shown 9 consecutive positive candles on the 1-hour level, which means that all short positions have been quickly absorbed in the short term. The bullish market is extremely hot, and on the small cycle 5-minute level, it is supported by the EMA30 moving average. Currently, it encounters neckline resistance near 2590, so it is advisable to buy on dips.
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The top strategy for junior traders to turn losses into profits with a winning rate of up to 76.5846%: stop-loss opening strategy
During the operation of the market, do you often feel that you are a reverse indicator? The market will fall when you are long, and the market will rise when you are short. You are reluctant to cut your losses, but you will be liquidated if you don't cut your losses. The source of loss is actually that you are going against the market.
The strategy introduced today is very suitable for you. It is simple, effective, and has a high winning rate. Many traders who lose money have turned losses into profits with this strategy! This is the loss-making opening strategy
No nonsense, let's talk about the strategy operation directly.
We simulate opening a long order or a small long order, and set a stop loss. For example, the current price of Bitcoin is 60500U to enter the long order, and the stop loss is 60000U. Then when the market falls to 60000U, the stop loss is triggered. At this time, we will enter a short order in real trading, with the entry point of 60000U and the stop loss point of 60500U. In contrast to the simulated long order direction, the stop loss position becomes the opening position, and the opening position becomes the stop loss position!
This is the top strategy of the legendary counselor: stop loss opening strategy
According to the 1:1 profit and loss ratio setting, the winning rate is almost as high as 76.5846%! This is an extremely terrifying winning rate!
So where is the principle of the stop loss opening strategy?
First of all, the practice of making orders based on feelings is abandoned. Stop loss proves the error of personal feelings, which proves that the correct direction of the market is the opposite, so the order should be opened in the opposite direction.
Secondly, the market stopped the trial order, proving that the market has gone out of a small trend. Going with the trend can make the order quickly profitable without suffering, which has a very good stabilizing effect on the mentality of traders
Finally, the opening position of the trial order provides a very good stop loss reference for losses, and will not cause greater losses because of reluctance to cut meat. Even if there is a loss, you can adjust your mentality and enter the next operation!
Having read this far, I believe you must have learned this strategy. Please like, collect and forward it!

We can call the recent market an instant reversal market, which means that the market is reversing every moment, rising sharply in the last minute and falling sharply in the next minute. When you think the direction is right, you will be hit hard. When you are used to this kind of ups and downs, you will be given a small trend.
Many people do not encounter trend market, which is not fatal. Instead, they have a large amount of retracement or even liquidation in this instant reversal market!
According to my strategy, the best practice at this stage is: 1. Short position 2. Ignore short-term fluctuations with a very small position 3. Make a profit with a very small expectation and leave

Importance of fund management
Stop loss strategy: Stop loss is an important part of fund management. It should not be established based on the market trend chart, but on fund management.
Floating loss tolerance: In the long run, the stronger the ability to bear floating losses, the greater the possibility of making money. This is the natural advantage of large funds and light positions.
Trading mentality
First consider the safety of the principal: The first thing to consider when trading is the safety of the principal, and then the profit.
Avoid quick success: The problem of many traders is that they are too eager for quick success, lack patience and long-term planning.
Reasonable expectations: Traders need to clarify their profit expectations and formulate trading strategies based on this expectation.
Challenges of contract trading
The difficulty of making quick money and huge profits: The difficulty in contracts is to make quick money and huge profits, which often leads to many people being doomed.
Capital scale: Contracts, especially medium and long-term transactions, require a certain scale of funds to ensure the safety of positions and the freedom of advance and retreat.
Trading strategy volatility management: The secret to profitable margin trading is to be able to withstand fluctuations. The advantage of large funds is that they can withstand large fluctuations with light positions without large capital withdrawals.
Profit process: Traders need to have a very clear understanding of their expected profit process and formulate and execute trading strategies based on this process.
Differences between retail investors and large institutions Advantages of large institutions: Most of the money earned by large institutions and large funds comes from retail investors' stop losses, which reflects the shortcomings of retail investors in fund management, stop loss strategies and trading mentality.
Conclusion
Contract trading is an industry that requires long-term planning, patient execution and a good mentality. Traders should pay attention to fund management, clarify their profit expectations, and avoid being eager for quick success and excessive pursuit of huge profits. Only in this way can they be invincible in the fierce market competition.

7.22 Digital Currency Strategy: Biden Withdrew from the Election!
Digital Currency
At 2 o'clock last night, the United States received news that Biden withdrew from the election! Then Trump's election as the next president is almost certain. Bitcoin has been pulled up. At present, the overall market is still in an upward trend, but it has entered a dense range of high-level chips. We need to carefully observe the market
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BTC
BTC daily level reached the second pressure level mentioned in Friday's strategy. From the daily level, the 67500-71500 range has sealed a lot of locked plates. This round of rise has not completely released all the locked plates because of the fast speed. Facing the pressure from above, I personally think that this week should be between 64800-70000, seeking to digest the locked plates above.
From a small-level cycle, BTC has reached the resistance level after continuous rise. Adjustment is a hard demand. At the 30-minute level, we can see that there are actually signs of forced pull-ups due to news, so next we have to start with a small position to try shorting on the left. If the market goes to the right side, then start shorting with a large position.
Today's operation: mainly short orders, increase positions after the right side is formed.
First support: 65706   Second support: 63462
First pressure: 68691   Second pressure: 70550
ETH
The upward trend of Ethereum is weaker than BTC, and the upward momentum is not as good as BTC. It is still on the rise, but it can't keep up with BTC's pull-up action. In addition, the current price encounters the upper resistance level. I personally expect that the short-level trend will turn, so the related concept coins are also weaker than the BTC related concepts. Therefore, short-term ETH short orders may be more rewarding than BTC.
Today's operation: The second brother's reaction is to look at the eldest brother's reaction first. The strength is not enough. It depends on the eldest brother's pace to determine the trend and follow BTC to make orders.
First support: 3395   Second support: 3280
First pressure: 3550   Second pressure: 3620

Banana tokens
BANANA coins were launched on September 14, 2023 as the core token of the Banana Gun project.
Banana Gun is a well-known Telegram trading robot that provides users with DEX trading convenience and aims to become the preferred trading tool on multiple chains.
BANANA token holders can get a share of the project Dapp revenue and enjoy trading rewards. The token has the characteristics of low handling fees, fast transactions and high security. The total supply is limited and the distribution involves many aspects.
After listing, the price of BANANA tokens has fluctuated greatly, and future performance is affected by project development and market changes.
In addition to trading and revenue sharing, BANANA tokens may also expand to e-commerce, payment, games and other fields.
Investors need to be wary of market fluctuations and uncertainties, ensure the safety of funds and comply with laws.
In general, BANANA tokens have unique advantages, but risk management is also required.

In the ever-changing world of the cryptocurrency industry, four sad stories have quietly unfolded. Have you ever experienced them yourself?
First, when you have gone through twists and turns and see the dawn of a return on investment, you encounter a sudden stop in the rebound, and your hopes are shattered like a bubble
Second, when you make prudent decisions and resolutely exit after making a profit, when you turn around, a dark horse emerges, and the regret of missing out follows you like a shadow
Third, when you are full of confidence and complacent, the market crash comes as expected, and the lesson is profound and cold
Fourth, when you have gone through wind and rain and are penniless, you look back at the market and find that high-quality currencies are everywhere, but you are no longer able to grasp them
Each of these scenes is a sad memory that people in the cryptocurrency industry are reluctant to mention again, but can't forget.