Trump: We have a lot of short-term debt, and if we lower interest rates by one percentage point, we will pay one percentage point less in interest. I can't make Powell lower rates, and I won't fire Powell; Powell just needs to lower rates, otherwise we will pay more for the debt. So I may have to take coercive measures. If inflation occurs within a year, just tell Powell to raise rates. I told Powell there is no need to keep rates this high.