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oh hey it’s going to be a big week for eth btw
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it’s going to be big week for eth btw
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we should solve this problem if we want mainstream adoption: wallets and apps treat nonce state as a private thing despite it being global shared data that lives in the mempool. without a synchronization layer different frontends will diverge and users will face invisible deadlocks like what i had today. the fix may be: > expose pending nonce information through a common api and surface any "stuck" statuses in wallet client uis + prompt replacement logic so users do not have to solve this stuff themselves users should *never* touch nonce gymnastics or need to be exposed to mempool heuristics. until that coordination exists at the apps/wallets level, we will need @basedkarbon & @AgentChud to save us each time. as for what happened, if you're curious: > every evm account maintains a monotonic sequence number called the nonce. >the chain will only accept a transaction whose nonce = the account’s current onchain value. >once a transaction is pending, the same nonce is locked until that transaction lands or is explicitly replaced. >i underpriced one transaction on base so it sat in limbo. >my local nonce cache in rainbow said next nonce is "x" yet the network still expected "n" rainbow coinbase wallet and rabby all signed new payloads with nonce x but without the required gas bump to satisfy the replacement rule every node discarded them and no txs went through. as a user *every* wallet gave zero user feedback that this was the root of the issue. to actually implement the solution, @MetaMask rescued me because its advanced panel exposes both nonce and dynamic fee fields. i resubmitted a 0 eth transfer to myself with the identical nonce as my last tx and a much higher priority fee + gas limit and the backlog cleared within seconds.
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we should solve this problem if we want mainstream adoption: wallets and apps treat nonce state as private thing despite it being global shared data that lives in the mempool. without a synchronization layer different frontends will diverge and users will face invisible deadlocks like what i had today. the fix may be: > expose pending nonce information through a common api and surface any "stuck" statuses in wallet client uis + prompt replacement logic so users do not have to solve this stuff themselves users should *never* touch nonce gymnastics or need to be exposed to mempool heuristics. until that coordination exists at the apps/wallets level, we will need @basedkarbon & @AgentChud to save us each time. as for what happened, if you're curious: > every evm account maintains a monotonic sequence number called the nonce. >the chain will only accept a transaction whose nonce = the account’s current onchain value. >once a transaction is pending, the same nonce is locked until that transaction lands or is explicitly replaced. >i underpriced one transaction on base so it sat in limbo. >my local nonce cache in rainbow said next nonce is "x" yet the network still expected "n" rainbow coinbase wallet and rabby all signed new payloads with nonce x but without the required gas bump to satisfy the replacement rule every node discarded them and no txs went through. as a user *every* wallet gave zero user feedback that this was the root of the issue. to actually implement the solution, @MetaMask rescued me because its advanced panel exposes both nonce and dynamic fee fields. i resubmitted a 0 eth transfer to myself with the identical nonce as my last tx and a much higher priority fee + gas limit and the backlog cleared within seconds.
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getting this error on my wallet; its odd because i have all the neccessary funds for this... anyone know what's up? i am on @base same issue across @Rabby_io & @rainbowdotme
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